more with Luke

hi darryl.
I agree with your point about it becoming 'bemoaning'- that should definitely be avoided as its dull.
I guess i meant it more about 'defining' the subject and that is exactly what a lot of young illustrators are having to do for themselves to the people that employ them, as the terrain has changed. what i find positive about that, is there is a willingness to hold on to and champion the idea of illustration even when they are being called 'set designers/ prop makers' etc - something they value within illustration.
I agree with AH and think its good to try and avoid some sort of equal status discussion , as again this can sound negative and misses whats good about subject.
Anyway, good luck with it all.